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What do you believe are the main reasons consumers purchase timeshare today? (18 posts)

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  • Profile picture of Admin Admin said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Have the main motivating factors changed over the years? Is it now solely financial, or has focus changed from a lifetime of holidays to greater experiences? Let us know your thoughts…

  • Profile picture of Leah Cowley Leah Cowley said 1 year ago:

    Timeshare certainly has changed form the classic basic weeks accomodations in the eighties. Now with the advent of points, associated travel discounts and discounted cash weeks the consumer has so much more on offer. I believe they still want the same thing… And it’s not always value for money (just look at the older wealthy purchasers).

    It is to spend great quality time ,creating moments and memories with the ones they love before they die….

    I know that may sound harsh but it’s a fact.

    I would love to hear some other replies :-)

  • Profile picture of Brian L. Tulloch Brian L. Tulloch said 1 year ago:

    Hi Leah,

    My company, Resort Suites International, has recently completed our global market research survey with Perspective Owners Magazine 13,000 readership with comprehensive valuable information regarding “2011 Resort Ownership Products Preferences” & “The Next Gernation of Resort Hotel Investment Ownership Offerings.”

    The respondents from over 27 countries expressed amazingly favorable 97% potential purchase indications for our Hotel Investment Trust (“HIT”) innovative products. The survey highlights are available upon request to RSIAP@AOL.COM. Our survey will demonstrate valuable future consumer demands for resort ownership products.

  • Profile picture of Kevin Ryan Kevin Ryan said 1 year ago:

    I would appreciate a copy of your highlights report. kevin.ryan@oceanbreezevillas.com

    ** Does anyone know of a good source for what people are looking for from Fractional, so price type of offer etc… so basicaly what sells and what doesn’t

  • Profile picture of Kevin Ryan Kevin Ryan said 1 year ago:

    Please send me a copy of your report, kevin.ryan@oceanbreezevillas.com

    Also, does anyone know of any good resources to find out what consumers are looking for in terms of timeshare in todays market, is price, weeks locations and if you know of any good comparisons.

  • Profile picture of Brian L. Tulloch Brian L. Tulloch said 1 year ago:

    Hi Kevin,

    FYI: Your survey request was immediately sent but the email was returned for incorrect address. Please resend to my RSIAP@AOL.COM

    Brian

  • Profile picture of Charles Patton Charles Patton said 1 year ago:

    Kevin,
    Timeshares are still being effectively sold using the same presentation that has worked since the early days. The main reason people buy timeshare is because a commissioned sales person is selling them. I truly believe that an effective sales person can sell timeshare to nearly everyone who is qualified to buy (i.e. has the money and the right demographics). The pitch remains the same — build rapport, discover how the client has vacationed and why, create the need (reminding them of the importance of time spent with family), create credibility in the company, show the product, create the value (based on savings), trial close, handle objections and close. Of course, there is more to the ideal sales presentation but those are the highlights.

    As far as fractional, the success of fractional depends heavily on: 1.) Location (close enough to where the customer lives to use the product repeatedly), 2.) Something really special about the product (spectacular view, water access, ski in/out access, or other), 3.) A really knocked-out interior (key is to be more modern and as nice or nicer than the client has at home), and 4.) Available financing. Right now, the fourth point is the toughest. The other important distinction about Fractional is that it often is NOT a same day sale (unless the pricing is very low). The sales cycle can be lengthy and requires a strong in-house telesales team to follow-up and sustain interest. If you would like further information, contact me at 407-399-0826. I have lots of experience in both products.
    Chuck

  • Profile picture of Leah Cowley Leah Cowley said 1 year ago:

    Yes Charles certainly knows his stuff. However it is not just timeshare that has been sold that way, but every major item you will purchase in your lifetime from Houses and cars right down to fridges and Clothes are sold that way. So really thats just “sales 101″. While we all love a prequalified buyer it is not fool proof. Through experience i have sold many ” unqualified buyers” My own personal opinion is that the more wealthy leads underlying thought tends to be ” what will i lose if i purchase this ” Whereas the poorer leads tend to be ” what will I gain if i purchase this” The latter being the easier to sell. I can’t remember who said it but. ” If you put a mirror under their nose and it mists up. They’re a lead.” And lets face it in this economy we can’t afford to be picky.

  • Profile picture of Leah Cowley Leah Cowley said 1 year ago:

    Yes Charles certainly knows his stuff. However it is not just timeshare that has been sold that way, but every major item you will purchase in your lifetime from Houses and cars right down to fridges and Clothes are sold that way. So really thats just “sales 101″. While we all love a prequalified buyer it is not fool proof. Through experience i have sold many ” unqualified buyers” My own personal opinion is that the more wealthy leads underlying thought tends to be ” what will i lose if i purchase this ” Whereas the poorer leads tend to be ” what will I gain if i purchase this” The latter being the easier to sell. I can’t remember who said it but. ” If you put a mirror under their nose and it mists up. They’re a lead.” And lets face it in this economy we can’t afford to be picky.

  • Profile picture of Leah Cowley Leah Cowley said 1 year ago:

    Hi Charles
    Regarding the comments about Fractional Ownership not being the same day sale. Could I ask what you call Low Pricing?

    Regards

  • Profile picture of Leah Cowley Leah Cowley said 1 year ago:

    Hi Brian,

    Always interested information on our industry. Please send details to
    leah.cowley@accorvacationclub.com.au
    Regards

  • Profile picture of Charles Patton Charles Patton said 1 year ago:

    Leah,
    First, I really disagree about the “PPG Test” as we used to call it (fogging a piece of Pittsburgh Plate and Glass company mirror). Nowadays, it is more important than ever to pre-qualify tours and to NOT take every warm body that comes along. The reason is because marketing and sales costs are so high, it is essential that we maximize VPGs so that profits are maximized. The only way to get very high VPGs is to Pre-Qualify. We work with a software tool that helps pre-qualify tours and if you aren’t using such a thing now, drop me a line at generalp2@aol.com and I’ll provide more info.

    Second, as far as the low pricing… It depends on your market’s income demographics (e.g. A low price to a New Yorker is a lot more than a low price to someone from Missouri. While there are a lot of factors that go into setting pricing, a general rule of thumb is to figure out the average income of your clientele and then set your pricing to be about 20% to 25% of their annual income. Now, there is no direct relationship between what someone earns in one year and what they can afford to pay for a timeshare/fractional but this ratio tends to approximate what they actually do spend. Other factors, such as product cost, upgrade strategy and financing/interest rates. If you have any other questions, please let me know.
    Chuck

  • Profile picture of Charles Patton Charles Patton said 1 year ago:

    PS: Leah, I meant to mention that I agree with what you said about the sales of other high-end products. A good sales person can sell anything.

  • Profile picture of Leah Cowley Leah Cowley said 1 year ago:

    My apologies Maybe I wasn’t clear enough in my last post. Obviously you need to have your standard Qualifications in place.
    Age
    Income
    Both parties to attend if in a relationship.
    Time minimums for retours
    You also need to have a great procedure in place to target serial tourists and gift hunters.

    However what would you use to further qualify someone for fractional ownership or timeshare?

    The thing with software tools is that they rely on the information that has been put into them and unfortunately people lie.
    As most people that have been successful in the industry know, there are “times” when after “sighting” a person you can pretty much guess whether they will join or not however this still falls into”prejudging” And most of the time you just can not tell.

    The products I have worked with have been far in excess of the 20% annual income. To sell in our industry you need “great people and a great product.”
    You won’t succed without both.

    With regards to doing the business on the day. There is a reason for that. The decsion to purchase needs to be made on the day. In my position I am able to offer people the opportunity to consider their purchase overnight if need be but to chase a sale over days seems a very expensive way to go about it. A good closer should be able to close . I would be interested in hearing about this fractional ownership thing. It sounds like real estate above $50,000 AUD to me rather than timeshare. Sorry I live on a little island on the other side of the ocean. lol Anyhow.

    PS> Do you sell the program you are talking about.

    Oh And yes. Getting the finance is definately the hardest at the moment.

    :-)

  • Profile picture of Charles Patton Charles Patton said 1 year ago:

    I have been totally responsible for running two timeshare companies and was, until recently helping a friend with marketing at another. I am not on the sales person but clearly work very closely with sales and have for years. I do do their comp plans, set pricing, and have run contract processing.

    By pre-qualifying, I mean using new, sophisticated software that only works in the U.S. and uses a vast array of data sources that does not rely on what people say about themselves. It works really well and only requires a name and address, nothing more.

    The fractional product does sell lot more like traditional real estate and in fact the line that I ran with one of the very first fractional products ever done was sold from the same line that sold houses and lots while timeshare was sold on a different line. I’m not saying you can’t close fractional sales same day but you need a strong first day incentive (and not nose-bleed price drops) and it does pay to have a telesales line to chase those who don’t but same day. If you need some consulting on your project in this area, I might have some time available after finishing up a couple of projects I have over the next 6-8 weeks. Let me know if I could help. I can send more info on my experience (CV, etc.) if you are interested.
    Chuck